LIVE REPORTS
12.10pm: Ram says there were no seminal stains on Saiful's trousers after the incident.
Justice Suriyadi asks if there is evidence that Saiful’s underwear was washed.
Ram says the underwear Saiful had used on the day of the incident was washed but seminal stains were found on another underwear, which he did not use on that day.
"If seminal stain was found on that underwear then there should also be similar stains on the trousers he used on the day of the incident," he adds.
Ram says that the government chemist was biased when not wanting to answer questions by defence lawyers.
12.05pm: DAP's Ronnie Liu (right in photo) causes a commotion when he is blocked by court officials from entering the courtroom without a pass.
Liu claims he and others have been entering the courtroom without a pass for two days, and thus should not be stopped.
He has given his IC to the court officers and insists on waiting till he gets a pass to enter.
12.00pm: Hence, Ram says doubt should be given to the accused.
He says that the pro-forma report in the hospital stated that Saiful resisted but there were no defensive wounds.
"Yet all four doctors including three from HKL state there are no signs of injury. Saiful says he was ravaged in a rough manner resulting in excruciating pain but there is no injury."
"The doctors said there ought to be injury if there was force and resistance as stated in the pro-forma.
"If K-Y jelly was used, they should accept the evidence of David Wells that there should be signs of injury due to the amount of force used," he adds.
11.50am: Ram says while Saiful claimed that the sodomy incident took place for five minutes when he testified in court, he, however, had told Supt Jude and the HKL doctor's that it went on for 30 minutes.
"If this is so (the longer duration), there will be signs of injury. This casts serious doubt on Saiful's testimony," he adds.
11.40am: Ram says the HKL doctor did not find any signs of tear or defensive wounds on Saiful.
"There is doubt to the factum of penetration on Saiful," he adds.
He points out that Dr Mohd Osman (right) also found the anus to be normal.
"How do you find semen in the rectum when there is no evidence of penetration," he says, adding that unless the items are different samples.
He argues that the trial judge and the Court of Appeal judges had erred in assuming that the right samples were found.
11.30am: DAP parliamentary leader Lim Kit Siang is in court with PKR's Sungai Petani MP Johari Abdul.
12.10pm: Ram says there were no seminal stains on Saiful's trousers after the incident.
Justice Suriyadi asks if there is evidence that Saiful’s underwear was washed.
Ram says the underwear Saiful had used on the day of the incident was washed but seminal stains were found on another underwear, which he did not use on that day.
"If seminal stain was found on that underwear then there should also be similar stains on the trousers he used on the day of the incident," he adds.
Ram says that the government chemist was biased when not wanting to answer questions by defence lawyers.
12.05pm: DAP's Ronnie Liu (right in photo) causes a commotion when he is blocked by court officials from entering the courtroom without a pass.Liu claims he and others have been entering the courtroom without a pass for two days, and thus should not be stopped.
He has given his IC to the court officers and insists on waiting till he gets a pass to enter.
12.00pm: Hence, Ram says doubt should be given to the accused.
He says that the pro-forma report in the hospital stated that Saiful resisted but there were no defensive wounds.
"Yet all four doctors including three from HKL state there are no signs of injury. Saiful says he was ravaged in a rough manner resulting in excruciating pain but there is no injury."
"The doctors said there ought to be injury if there was force and resistance as stated in the pro-forma.
"If K-Y jelly was used, they should accept the evidence of David Wells that there should be signs of injury due to the amount of force used," he adds.
11.50am: Ram says while Saiful claimed that the sodomy incident took place for five minutes when he testified in court, he, however, had told Supt Jude and the HKL doctor's that it went on for 30 minutes.
"If this is so (the longer duration), there will be signs of injury. This casts serious doubt on Saiful's testimony," he adds.
11.40am: Ram says the HKL doctor did not find any signs of tear or defensive wounds on Saiful.
"There is doubt to the factum of penetration on Saiful," he adds.
He points out that Dr Mohd Osman (right) also found the anus to be normal."How do you find semen in the rectum when there is no evidence of penetration," he says, adding that unless the items are different samples.
He argues that the trial judge and the Court of Appeal judges had erred in assuming that the right samples were found.
11.30am: DAP parliamentary leader Lim Kit Siang is in court with PKR's Sungai Petani MP Johari Abdul.
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