Of nurses in short skirts and bikinis

YOURSAY l ‘Nobody is asking nurses to come to work in short skirts or bikinis.’

PPIM mocks short sleeves for nurses, proposes short skirts and bikinis

Septuaman: Malaysian Muslim Consumers' Association (PPIM) chief Nazim Johan, have you ever wondered why surgeons, before carrying out any surgical procedure, scrub both their hands to the elbows, don sterile clothing, put on sterilised gloves and sterile head covering?

I guess you don't but then maybe it is unfair of me to pose such a difficult question to an ignoramus like you.

Just so you know, all this is to prevent the spread of infection. There are such things called germs in case you do not know and they cause all manner of diseases.

That nurse you are defending has no business to work in a hospital as, being a nurse, she ought to know better. It was not about her modesty or covering her 'aurat', she has just got a bad attitude.

And my friend, don't make this a racial issue. She would have been dismissed all the same had her superior been someone of her race.

Slumdog: Nadzim, now you are being silly, suggesting that nurses would do better to wear sleeveless shirts, short skirts or bikinis.

Anonymous_1371547149: Stupid PPIM, do you use your legs to take patients' temperature or lift them from the bed?

Nurses need to wear short sleeves because the arms and hands are the parts that come into most contact with infected patients.

Thus they can wash their arms and hands after every encounter with a patient. This will prevent them from spreading germs to other patients. Wearing long sleeves means they carry the germs with them throughout the day.

Unless PPIM suggests that the nurses wash their long sleeves after every contact with an infectious patient. Then we will have nurses walking around with dripping wet long sleeves.

Hplooi: An analogy by itself is not an argument but merely serves to illustrate the cogency of an argument. You can have good or bad analogy.

In Malaysia, the use of emotional analogy, frequently used to pass off as rational argument by itself, and to inflame the audience towards a certain viewpoint is a favoured tactic (and a dishonest form of argument).

In this case, using the analogy of ‘short skirts and bikinis', PPIM is resorting to emotional laden rhetoric to inflame certain segment of the audience but with no rational and new facts to add to their case.

In reality, short skirts and bikinis have no relevance as an analogy by itself (as it is generally accepted in the known-civilised world that bikinis/shorts are not acceptable under World Health Organisation standards).

By PPIM standard of analogy, I can also say that burqa should be acceptable for health care workers on pain of religious sensitivities.

Lukesky: Nobody is asking nurses to come to work in sleeveless blouses or short skirts or bikinis.

The hospital just required all nurses to follow WHO recommended policy to minimise risk of infection by not wearing long sleeves. If you cannot follow the dress code, find another job.

I suppose this kind of mentality is to be expected from guys like him and that guy currently being prosecuted in New Zealand who is claiming that if a woman smiles at him, it’s a signal to follow them.

Old Timer: What an idiotic statement from Nadzim, who has absolute zero knowledge about infection risks in hospitals.

And what a stupid statement about wearing short skirts and bikinis. This really speak much about his grey matter or the lack of it.

Ib: There are guys who have no other contribution to add to society because they did not study science, maths, engineering, technology, economics and so on. So they have to defend the religion.

In the process of doing so, they make fools of themselves talking about how exciting mini-skirts and bikinis would be.

Az: Nadzim, if you are not familiar and well-versed in this issue, please don't make statements that make you look stupid.

Short-sleeves or sleeves rolled-up has been practiced in many hospitals overseas for a long time, and now locally.

Doc: There are ways to fight infection with antibiotics, disinfectants, cleanliness and proper hospital attire.

But to fight against profound stupidity like Nadzim; that is a lost cause.

Vent: I think we should throw up our hands. There is virtually "no scientific evidence to say" there is any possibility of increasing the grey matter in his head. -Mkini