I have not heard one comment from any of these people who appear outraged with what they imagine Nurul Izzah had said. Ibrahim Ali of Perkasa too has whacked Nurul Izzah. So have some co-called scholars. But did you notice one thing? They NEVER mentioned the punishment for someone who leaves Islam. Why do they not have the balls to say it?
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Raja Petra Kamarudin
Malaysians have this very kiasu and very kaypoh characteristic. They worry about what other people are doing (or cannot do). For example, most of the comments about Nurul Izzah Anwar’s misunderstood and misinterpreted comment regarding freedom of religion come from the non-Malays/non-Muslims.
And you know what? All those who are making these comments were not even there. So how do you know what she said? Yet you make comments as if you were there and you fully understood what she said.
The non-Malays/non-Muslims do not face any problems with their religion. They can worship trees, rocks, goats, cows, pussies, dicks, statues, etc., or even not believe in God if they wish to. No one can do anything about that. It is the Muslims who do not enjoy that same freedom.
So why are the non-Malays/non-Muslims talking so much about a problem that does not affect them or involve them? Can you imagine the Malays/Muslims making so many comments about the problem the Hindus are facing when they go to pray at Batu Caves?
What problems you face at Batu Caves and what you do at Batu Caves is a Hindu problem. The Malays-Muslims will not masuk campur. Anyway, in the first place, the Malays-Muslims are of the opinion (or misconception, if that word pleases you more) that what the Hindus are doing is wrong. Malays-Muslims consider that as an act of idol worshipping and idol worshipping is forbidden in Islam. So why bother to comment about something you do not believe in anyway?
Okay, okay, okay, we must allow freedom of thought and freedom of expression. So the non-Malays/non-Muslims have every right to say what they think. And they think that it is wrong for Malays-Muslims to be denied freedom of religion. If the Malays-Muslims want to leave Islam then they should be allowed to do so. And since the Malays-Muslims do not have that freedom, then the non-Malays/non-Muslims must speak up and whack Islam.
But that is just it. Did anyone force you to convert to Islam? Are you even a Muslim in the first place? If you are not a Muslim then why do you bother about what Islam does and does not allow? It does not affect you one bit.
And have you stopped to think that maybe the Malays-Muslims are not unhappy about this? You, the non-Malays/non-Muslims, are so unhappy that the Malays/Muslims cannot leave Islam. So you whack Islam. But the Malays-Muslims can accept that. It is the non-Malays/non-Muslims who cannot accept that. Why?
Hindus are forbidden from eating beef, just like Muslims are forbidden from eating pork. Is this not denying Indians their right to freedom of food? Should the Muslims condemn Hinduism and label it as an outdated religion from the Dark Ages? In today’s day and age no one should be denied their right to eat whatever they want to eat. Why use a law from the Dark Ages to control Hindus as to what they can and cannot eat?
Why are the Hindus so stupid? In the old days you needed cows as beasts of burden. So you needed to ban the killing of cows or else the people would starve if there were no beasts of burden. Today you don’t need cows. You can use tractors and lorries to do that work. So why can’t Indians or Hindus kill the cows and eat the meat?
Sounds like a stupid argument, does it not? Well, no more stupid than the non-Malays/non-Muslims trying to teach the Malays-Muslims what ‘proper’ Islam should be.
Anyway, all this Islam-bashing only works in Umno’s favour and most likely the Malays-Muslims will demonstrate their disgust in the coming general election. Then, when Pakatan Rakyat fails to march into Putrajaya, I will write another “Ha, ha, ha…I told you so” article. Trust me to rub salt into your wounds. I love doing that.
Nevertheless, just for the record, let me stress here that I am a strong supporter of freedom of thought and freedom of expression. Take note, though, that freedom of expression does not quite mean freedom to mock or freedom to vilify, which is what many of you do and you call it freedom of speech.
Even sex with an underage girl is considered rape so you can’t hide behind the concept of freedom of sex. Freedom of sex comes with conditions -- meaning between two CONSENTING ADULTS. Those are the two key words -- consenting and adults. If not then it would be rape.
So make sure you understand what freedom of thought and freedom of expression really means. Many of you are confused about the concept.
Anyway, back to the issue I want to talk about today. I said I am a strong supporter of freedom of thought and freedom of expression. And this is a problem that Muslims face and which Muslims must address. Let me repeat that. This is a problem that Muslims face and which Muslims must address.
Muslims are not allowed freedom of thought and freedom of expression. And this is why Nurul Izzah is currently in hot soup. She said something, and the media misinterpreted (or twisted) what she said.
I have heard what she said. And what she said was correct. She did not say that she supports Muslims becoming apostates. She did not say that she supports Muslims leaving Islam to become, say, Christians. Personally, she upholds Islamic values and teachings. However, the reality is, in this day and age, people are able to think for themselves and invariably people will follow what they think is correct, even if that ‘correct’ thing to these people is to leave Islam.
Hence what do we do? If people still leave Islam do we round them up and cut off their heads in a public square? What do we do? In the real world people do leave Islam so that is something we need to live with even though we may be opposed to it.
Is not Nurul Izzah just being practical? You may not like it, but it happens. The question is what action do you take? Why not the various muftis and scholars (ulamak) then tell us what to do. Let us hear these muftis and ulamaks clearly state that all those Muslims who leave Islam must be rounded up and be put to death.
I have not heard one comment from any of these people who appear outraged with what they imagine Nurul Izzah had said. Ibrahim Ali of Perkasa too has whacked Nurul Izzah. So have some co-called scholars. But did you notice one thing? They NEVER mentioned the punishment for someone who leaves Islam. Why do they not have the balls to say it?
Can you now see why I say that Malays-Muslims are great hypocrites? They do not dare say that apostates must be put to death. Why do they not say it? Idiots!
Nurul Izzah then quoted Tariq Ramadan. And she quoted what Tariq Ramadan said about there not being any compulsion in religion, which is a verse from the Qur’an. Would any mufti or ulamak like to dispute that? If so, say so now, or else forever keep your dirty mouth shut.
Actually, my bone of contention is not with the mufti or ulamak. Most of them are hypocrites anyway so why waste our time with them? They make so much noise but they stop short of telling us what should be done about apostates. My bone of contention is with the politicians.
If the politicians did not play up this issue then the whole thing would be a non-issue. It is because this has been turned into a political issue that we now have a serious racial-religious problem in Malaysia. And all politicians -- Malays/Muslims plus non-Malays/non-Muslims -- are to be blamed for this because everyone is doing it.
Read the statement below:
Timbalan Presiden PKR Azmin Ali pula berkata masyarakat beragama Islam di negara ini masih lagi terikat dengan undang-undang syariah dan itu tidak boleh dipertikaikan.
So there you have it. Azmin Ali, Ibrahim Ali, Hasan Ali, Baba Ali, or whoever, they are all the same. They all say that Muslims are bound by the Sharia and hence Sharia laws cannot be disputed. This means Muslims cannot leave Islam.
Azmin Ali represents PKR and Pakatan Rakyat. And PKR's and Pakatan Rakyat’s stand is the same as Umno, Barisan Nasional, Perkasa, or whatever. As far as the Sharia is concerned, both sides of the political fence are unanimous in their views.
So what more to talk? Whether you vote Barisan Nasional or Pakatan Rakyat the Sharia cannot be disputed and Muslims cannot leave Islam. So maybe the non-Malays/non-Muslims can stop whacking Islam on grounds that Islam does not allow Muslims to leave Islam because Pakatan Rakyat also shares this view.
Yes, I know what you are now going to say. You are going to say it is political suicide for Pakatan Rakyat to state its stand. So better Pakatan Rakyat just keep quiet and not lose the election.
Okay, I can buy that. Let’s just keep quiet and pretend so that Pakatan Rakyat does not lose the election. That is not hypocrisy. That is…err...political expediency. So why talk about the Islamic State then? Why talk about Hudud then? You talk about nine very sensitive things but you refuse to talk about the tenth thing lest you lose the election.
Kan ke bodoh tu?
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