Clive Kessler's Comments On 355 Amendment

I received this via email from KJ (not that fellow).  Its some comments by Clive Kessler about that 355 Amendment. I suppose the reason it was sent to me (a Blogger) is so that I may put it in my Blog. Which I will. So here it is:

From: Clive Kessler [mailto: @.edu.au]
Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 10:43 AM

THE HEAD OF IKSIM ON AMENDMENT OF ACT 355,

AUGMENTING THE POWERS [ANDS JURISDICTION TOO?] OF THESHARI’AH COURTS.

“Golongan tertentu yang menuduh usaha untuk meminda Rang Undang Undang 355  bagi mengukuhkan bidang kuasa Mahkamah Syariah sebagai bertentangan dengan Perlembagaan Persekutuan  disifatkan sebagai jahil dan sombong.”

“Dalam soal ini katanya, mahkamah berkenaan hanya membicarakan kes seperti urusan perkahwinan pasangan Islam,  serta salah laku seperti khalwat, zina dan minum arak

khusus untuk orang Islam sahaja.”

SO WHAT THEN, ARE CASES NOW INVOLVING  ZI PUBLICATIONS /.MOHD EZRA ZAID, KASSIM AHMAD AND HIS POLITICAL AND CIVIL RIGHTS, AND THE SURREPTITIOUS / UNDECLARED ISSUING OF FATWAAGAINST SIS AND LIBERAL MUSLIMS GENERALLY  DOING IN THESHARI’AH COURTS?

WHY ARE THESE CASES AND MATTERS  NOW ROUTINELY REFERRED BY THE CIVIL COURTS TO THE SHARI’AH COURTS?

IF PROF. NASER DISA DOES NOT AGREE WITH THAT EXERCISE OF THOSE POWERS, IF HE DOES NOT THINK THE SHARI’AH COURTS SHOULD OR ARE ENTITLED TO USE THEM, HE SHOULD SAY SO NOW — IN THE FIRST INSTANCE TO YG. ARIF HANIPAH FARIKULLAH WHO, AS THE SITTING JUDGE THESE DAYS IN THE APPEALS AND ADMINSITRATIVE DIVISION OF THE HIGH COURT, IS HAPPILY REFERRING THESE MATTERS ON, AS A MATTER OF SETTLED LAW AND CONSTITUTIONAL PROPRIETY, TO THE SHARI’AH COURTS.

.. .. OR IS THE DIRECTOR-PROFESSOR SPEAKING WITH “FORKED TONGUE” HERE?

BUT, CONSISTENT WITH THE NEW IKSIM DOCTRINE AND ITS TOTAL OVERTURNING OF THE ORIGINAL AND INTENDED MEANING OF ARTICLE 3 OF THE CONSTITUTION, HE STILL INSISTS THAT:

"Ini kerana mereka keliru dengan menyangkakan negara ini masih sebagai sekular, " katanya.

Kessler's remarks are in reply to this news report :

UTUSAN

Jangan keliru dengan pindaan Rang Undang Undang 355

25 September 2016 10:34 PM

PERMATANG PAUH 25 Sept. - Golongan tertentu yang menuduh usaha untuk meminda Rang Undang Undang 355 bagi mengukuhkan bidang kuasa Mahkamah Syariah sebagai bertentangan dengan Perlembagaan Persekutuan disifatkan sebagai jahil dan sombong.

Ketua Pegawai Eksekutif Institut Kajian Strategik Islam Malaysia, Datuk Profesor Mahamad Naser Disa berkata, ini kerana bidang kuasa Mahkamah Syariah terhad dan tidak berkuasa membicarakan kes sivil.

Dalam soal ini katanya, mahkamah berkenaan hanya membicarakan kes seperti urusan perkahwinan pasangan Islam, serta salah laku seperti khalwat, zina dan minum arak khusus untuk orang Islam sahaja.

"Perkara ini berlaku disebabkan kekeliruan tokoh politik yang menang pilihan raya tetapi mereka lupa bahawa Perkara 3, Perlembagaan Persekutuan menyebut Islam agama negara ini.

"Ini kerana mereka keliru dengan menyangkakan negara ini masih sebagai sekular, " katanya.

Beliau berkata demikian sebagai mewakili Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri, Datuk Seri Jamil Khir Baharom program Jelajah Malaysia "Ke Arah Negara Bersyariah" anjuran Kongres Rakyat di Masjid Jamek Seberang Jaya di sini hari ini. - UTUSAN ONLINE

- See more at: http://www.utusan.com.my/berita/nasional/jangan-keliru-dengan-pindaan-rang-undang-undang-355-1.387121#sthash.ocTEvxpD.dpuf

My comments :  Better late than never. I am glad to see that at last, at long last, the non Muslims are taking slightly  more serious interest in the increasingly dangerous developments among the unthinking in this country.

For the past 25 years my friends and I have been highlighting all these things. We have even been warning the non Muslims - from the 1990s - that you must look over into your neighbor's fence and see how big a fire your neighbor is burning on their side of the fence. Because one day they will burn your house down too.

But often we were shunned upon. I recall somewhere in the mid 1990s one 'conference' organised by Clive Kessler's wife (who is a local academic)  at the Swiss Garden Hotel in Jalan Pudu.  Kessler was also present.

I was present and raised my hands to ask questions and make comments. After I had made one comment I was ignored  (because I like to say things that the dim witted feel are 'controversial'.) They did not listen then.  Look what has happened now? 

What can I say  'I TOLD YOU SO'.

Anyway lets look at what the guy has said :

Mahamad Naser Disa berkata, ini kerana bidang kuasa Mahkamah Syariah terhad dan tidak berkuasa membicarakan kes sivil.      Dalam soal ini katanya, mahkamah berkenaan hanya membicarakan kes seperti urusan perkahwinan pasangan Islam, serta salah laku seperti khalwat, zina dan minum arak khusus untuk orang Islam sahaja.

Ok brader, kalaulah begitu then why do you have to pinda the Akta lagi?

Sejak berpuluh-puluh dan puluh tahun memang mahkamah syariah ada kuasa :

'hanya membicarakan kes seperti urusan perkahwinan pasangan Islam, serta salah laku seperti khalwat, zina dan minum arak khusus untuk orang Islam sahaja

Ini sudah berlaku dan berjalan selama berpuluh tahun. Habis pasal apa nak pinda Akta 355 pula?

Janganlah cakap klentong. Awak semua sudah makin gila kuasa.  Awak semua rasa tak puas hati, rasa tak cukup kuasa kalau mahkamah syariah hanya terlibat urusan kahwin, khalwat, zina dan minum arak. Jadi sekarang awak hendak luaskan bidang kuasa mahkamah syraiah.

Awak cakap, bukan saya cakap ok, bahawasanya :   

mahkamah berkenaan hanya membicarakan kes seperti urusan perkahwinan pasangan Islam, serta salah laku seperti khalwat, zina dan minum arak khusus untuk orang Islam sahaja

OK lah. Cukup lah tu. Pasal apa nak tambah-tambah kuasa lagi.

So jangan klentong ok.  Memang niat depa untuk pinda Akta 355 untuk luaskan kuasa mahkamah syariah (kuasa syariah boleh termasuk potong tangan, hukum bunuh untuk murtad). In other words lebih mudah esok hari untuk laksanakan hukum hudud.

 355 ini 'boleh dianggap' persiapan awal untuk laksana hukum hudud.

Cakap lah terus terang. Jangan takut nak cakap.  

So to the non Muslims as well,  there is still time. You the non Muslims have a tremendous advantage which the Muslims do not have in this country.  

I will not detail what is that advantage here in my Blog. I only do so in closed door meetings. It is about educating yourselves and raising certain questions that can really deflate their erections.
 

But if you dont even allow people like me to ask questions or make comments then tak payah lah.  You are doomed as well.

My 10 year old book has been banned. Did anyone of you speak up?  You are doomed as well.  

We are all in the same boat. If the nut jobs punched a hole at my end of the boat, you are going to sink as well.