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Wednesday, October 12, 2011

Apologise to whom? For what?

your sayLet there be freedom, to think at least and to express what is rational to avoid misunderstanding and hatred in a multi-religious society. Let us all Malaysians respect one another's religion.

NGO: Apologise to Muslims for conversion attempt

Proarte: People who speak on behalf of Islam should at least have some integrity and decency. Islam must stand for universal good values, otherwise it becomes a failed moral order which will bring about endless strife and disorder.

The statement by Isma shows they do not believe in the rule of law. It was officially stated that there was lack of evidence and hence the church could not be charged. Apologising for proselytising would be to admit guilt for something the church from the very beginning categorically stated it did not do.

What standard of proof does Isma's brand of Islam stand for? You condemn a person through lack of evidence?

If this is Islam, then it's no wonder we see evil and barbaric aspects of it throughout the world. The latest atrocity is the mob murder of 24 Coptic Christians and serious injury to hundreds of others. If Muslims are not busy killing each other, they find any excuse for stoking up tensions, even though there is lack of evidence

Ben-ghazi: ‘There indeed were attempts to subvert the faith and beliefs of Muslims at the function, although legal action could not be taken because of a lack of evidence, the NGO said.'

This is really puzzling, and amounts to something like 'doublespeak.' To say that there are attempts to convert must be based on some evidence. Yet, in the next breath, it says 'no action could be taken because of lack of evidence'.

How is our younger generation going to take this kind of 'adult' logic?

RR: Let there be freedom, to think at least and to express what is rational to avoid misunderstanding and hatred in a multi-religious society. Gandhi said, 'There is no path for peace. Peace is the only path.'

Let us all Malaysians respect one another's religion and remain in that religion you are born into as an ordain of God. In your next life, you may be born into the religion that you cherished so much in this life. Or, if you can't wait, go to a land where there is absolute freedom to convert to avoid all this bigotry.

Henry Hock Guan Teh: The Prophet Muhammad travelled afar, trying to convert idol worshippers to become Muslims. Should he apologise? Buddha taught his philosophy and many Hindus at that time converted to Buddhism. Should Gautama apologise? Jesus and his Apostles preached and many Jews converted to Christianity. Should Jesus apologise?

All the body snatchers who claimed that the deceased Catholics had converted to Islam, should the Muslim apologise? I think on Judgment Day, it will be too late for us to apologise to our friends that we failed to share to them about the truth of God.

Clean & Clear: Apologise for what? To people who claim that "there were attempts to subvert the faith and beliefs of Muslims" but at the same time say that "legal action could not be taken because of a lack of evidence"?

It baffles me that how these sadly misguided people can come out with such a statement that can cause the rakyat to question the wisdom of our sultan and the stupidity of Jais.

There is either evidence or no evidence. If there is a lack of evidence, then how do you conclude that proselytising had taken place?

Bishop: Hasan has been 'grossly negligent'

Louis: Why must Pakatan Rakyat still retain Hasan Ali? Bishop Paul Tan is simply right in his comment. Hasan Ali is no match to debate Paul over this matter. When the Selangor Islamic Affairs Department (Jais) committed the serious mistake of raiding the Damansara Utama Methodist Church (DUMC), the only way to save face is to ask the sultan to solve it for them.

pkr taman ehsan selayang ceramah 020810 hasan aliIf Jais really has the evidence, the right person to decide whether to prosecute or not is the attorney-general.

Hibiscus: Hasan Ali poses a danger to the well-being of the rakyat and Selangor Pakatan government if he continues to be in the executive council. His actions are impulsive and his views are skewed towards his own self-righteous thinking without a thought for others, and he does not exhibit soundness of thought.

It is just fortunate that he is not a practising medical doctor, because if he was, his patients would have suffered unnecessarily from incorrect prescription due to his quack methods.

fz2379: I personally pity Hasan Ali for being the only brave soul from PAS to stand his ground when others mocked him. By far, I see Hasan Ali as a fighter, the brave one, comparing him with the likes of Mat Sabu, Nizar Jamaluddin and other PAS stalwarts who won't cower like mice when in trouble.

If (ex-PAS president) Fadhil Noor was still alive, he would go furious over this matter. And trust me when I say this, that Fadhil may even have made PAS leave Pakatan for this folly.

Mind you, this is not the first time PAS had to take orders from the Pakatan alliance. Remember the ‘arak' (alcohol) case in Shah Alam? Remember the fight over ‘Kalimah Allah'? What about the ‘rumah urut' (massage parlours) in Selangor?

Personally, I think PAS strayed too far from its objective, which is to protect Islam.

Loyal Malaysian: Hear, hear, Bishop Paul Tan. Let PAS be served notice that Hasan's actions are looked upon with disgust and contempt by civil society members. As an elected representative of PAS, we hold PAS responsible and accountable for this rogue element's ridiculous actions. - Malaysiakini

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