YOURSAY 'Somebody wants to make money and we consumers are suffering. Please remove the new meters and put the old ones back.'
PKR: Pak Lah's kin linked to TNB meter project
Pakman: I was told by a Tenaga Nasional Berhad (TNB) staff member that this new meter with digital reading can lead to higher electric tariff.
Now I realise why my electric bill has increased by almost 25 to 30 percent. Pakatan Rakyat should take up this complaints seriously as it could affect millions of consumers paying higher electricity bills.
Annonymous #$@20745628: For the two of us in a family (my wife and me), the monthly average of our electricity bill before the digital meter was installed was from RM80 to RM100.
But now, it is averaging between RM160 to RM200. Boy, I hope TNB can explain this exorbitant hike.
Blind Freddo: If Wong Chen is PKR's Investment and Trade Bureau chief, why doesn't he have something to say about investment and trade under the Pakatan Rakyat government.
PKR: Pak Lah's kin linked to TNB meter project
Pakman: I was told by a Tenaga Nasional Berhad (TNB) staff member that this new meter with digital reading can lead to higher electric tariff.Now I realise why my electric bill has increased by almost 25 to 30 percent. Pakatan Rakyat should take up this complaints seriously as it could affect millions of consumers paying higher electricity bills.
Annonymous #$@20745628: For the two of us in a family (my wife and me), the monthly average of our electricity bill before the digital meter was installed was from RM80 to RM100.
But now, it is averaging between RM160 to RM200. Boy, I hope TNB can explain this exorbitant hike.
Blind Freddo: If Wong Chen is PKR's Investment and Trade Bureau chief, why doesn't he have something to say about investment and trade under the Pakatan Rakyat government.
Instead all we get is this endlessly unproductive criticism of BN. This has got to be the most negative election campaign in the history of democracy.
The simple difference is that BN is the devil you know. Pakatan is the devil you know enough about to strongly suspect it is worse than the devil you know. And as some are dreaming of a new world from Pakatan, they will be more disillusioned than they are now. Ask the Egyptians.
You are making the fatal mistake of assessing Pakatan by BN standards. I'm assessing Pakatan by Pakatan's standards. And they have failed their own test.
Changeagent: Blind Freddo, just wanted to give you some insights into the psyche of a normal Pakatan supporter. We compare Pakatan against BN. None of this "Pakatan by Pakatan's standards" mumbo-jumbo. That's way too intellectual for us.
You see, we are simple-minded people who like to keep things simple. The questions we ask are, between Pakatan and BN, who is more competent, who is less corrupt, who would do a better job at creating a better future for the next generation?
It's basically a simple straight comparison between the two parties. Sorry if it's not as intellectual as you would have wanted it to be.
Blind Freddo: Changeagent, I'm sorry for you and sorry for Malaysia if you think that 'better than BN' is a good enough standard to choose for the management of this country, especially in the face of all the other garbage that Pakatan carries with it.
For 55 years, Malaysians have allowed Umno to walk all over them. Malaysians have allowed Umno to destroy what might otherwise have been a prosperous and liberal country.
Four years ago, enough Malaysians made a choice to no longer support BN that they suffered significant losses in the last GE.
But Pakatan, instead of throwing the door open to the concept of a new Malaysia, they slammed the door in your face. No innovation, no forward thinking, no addressing the crimes of BN, no plans, no clear-cut promises, and the utter failure to address the real issues.
All they presented you with is more of the same. Malay rights, subsidies, free this, free that, and no real solutions to address real problems.
Changeagent: Don't be sorry for me and Malaysia. 'Better than BN' is a lot better than what we have had in the last 55 years.
Sorry that you think that 'better than BN' doesn't qualify Pakatan to rule. You are entitled to your own views, but I fully do not understand your logic (or lack of it). Nor do I care to understand it.
You said: "For 55 years Malaysians have allowed Umno to walk all over them. Malaysians have allowed Umno to destroy what might otherwise have been a prosperous and liberal country."
And your solution is to keep Umno-BN in power? Good one, Blind Freddo. Like I said, you make absolutely no sense at all, my friend.
Giudice: Changeagent, it's a futile exercise to educate Blind Freddo, the BN apologist. He tries to hide the fact that he is a BN apologist by trying to also "criticise" BN but at the end of the day, his logic (or as you rightly put it, lack of it) is exposed by him advocating that we continue to vote for BN.
The only alternatives now are BN and Pakatan, yet he cannot understand that "Pakatan is better than BN" is itself a very good reason to vote for Pakatan.
For him, it is logical that because Pakatan has not (in his estimation) lived up to Pakatan's high standards is good enough reason to vote for BN despite all of BN's wrongdoings and the fact that he himself has claimed that BN is beyond redemption! Go figure.
M Suresh Kumar: TNB is fleecing the rakyat. Businesses were paying 28 cents/unit, the rates went up to 39 cents, then 40 and now it is 43 cents/unit.
To top that, we also have to pay "subsidi bahan api". What is this? The government doesn't care, we are left with monopolies fleecing us in utilities, in the price of rice and sugar and in so many areas.
Those in power are actually behind all these ‘atrocities' for their own selfish gains. Well, your time is up, enough is enough.
Anonymous #33877536: What was wrong with the old meter? Somebody wants to make money and we consumers are suffering. Please remove the new meters and put the old ones back.
Anonymous_40c3: TNB should conduct some tests by using existing households old meters and that of the new meters with some control environment in place to ensure the results are accurate.
What's the point of suspending without a proper investigation? Many of us have experienced a hike in our bills after the meter change.
Fair&Just: You reap what you sow. There are so many accusations of rip-off of the rakyat's money and on the balance of probability, the amount of rip-off can come to billions of ringgit, plus the nation's debt of RM700-800 billion.
The rakyat are heavily burdened with expenses and if there is no change, we may have to even pay for the air we breath in the near future.
Odin: I remember very well how the MSM (mainstream media) sang their praises of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi when news came out that he would be taking over from you-know-who.
He was said to be an excellent candidate because he was known as ‘Mr Clean'. Obviously, he was anything but.
Apapunboleh: Over the years, with five adults in our household, we pay an average of RM130-150 monthly for our electricity bills.
Since our meter was changed, our monthly bill has increased to RM240-290 with four adults as one has moved out. How accurate is this digital meter?
Those who received BR1M (Bantuan Rakyat 1Malaysia) - this is how BN rob back from your pocket. - Malaysiakini
The simple difference is that BN is the devil you know. Pakatan is the devil you know enough about to strongly suspect it is worse than the devil you know. And as some are dreaming of a new world from Pakatan, they will be more disillusioned than they are now. Ask the Egyptians.
You are making the fatal mistake of assessing Pakatan by BN standards. I'm assessing Pakatan by Pakatan's standards. And they have failed their own test.
Changeagent: Blind Freddo, just wanted to give you some insights into the psyche of a normal Pakatan supporter. We compare Pakatan against BN. None of this "Pakatan by Pakatan's standards" mumbo-jumbo. That's way too intellectual for us.
You see, we are simple-minded people who like to keep things simple. The questions we ask are, between Pakatan and BN, who is more competent, who is less corrupt, who would do a better job at creating a better future for the next generation?
It's basically a simple straight comparison between the two parties. Sorry if it's not as intellectual as you would have wanted it to be.
Blind Freddo: Changeagent, I'm sorry for you and sorry for Malaysia if you think that 'better than BN' is a good enough standard to choose for the management of this country, especially in the face of all the other garbage that Pakatan carries with it.
For 55 years, Malaysians have allowed Umno to walk all over them. Malaysians have allowed Umno to destroy what might otherwise have been a prosperous and liberal country.
Four years ago, enough Malaysians made a choice to no longer support BN that they suffered significant losses in the last GE.
But Pakatan, instead of throwing the door open to the concept of a new Malaysia, they slammed the door in your face. No innovation, no forward thinking, no addressing the crimes of BN, no plans, no clear-cut promises, and the utter failure to address the real issues.
All they presented you with is more of the same. Malay rights, subsidies, free this, free that, and no real solutions to address real problems.
Changeagent: Don't be sorry for me and Malaysia. 'Better than BN' is a lot better than what we have had in the last 55 years.
Sorry that you think that 'better than BN' doesn't qualify Pakatan to rule. You are entitled to your own views, but I fully do not understand your logic (or lack of it). Nor do I care to understand it.
You said: "For 55 years Malaysians have allowed Umno to walk all over them. Malaysians have allowed Umno to destroy what might otherwise have been a prosperous and liberal country."
And your solution is to keep Umno-BN in power? Good one, Blind Freddo. Like I said, you make absolutely no sense at all, my friend.
Giudice: Changeagent, it's a futile exercise to educate Blind Freddo, the BN apologist. He tries to hide the fact that he is a BN apologist by trying to also "criticise" BN but at the end of the day, his logic (or as you rightly put it, lack of it) is exposed by him advocating that we continue to vote for BN.
The only alternatives now are BN and Pakatan, yet he cannot understand that "Pakatan is better than BN" is itself a very good reason to vote for Pakatan.
For him, it is logical that because Pakatan has not (in his estimation) lived up to Pakatan's high standards is good enough reason to vote for BN despite all of BN's wrongdoings and the fact that he himself has claimed that BN is beyond redemption! Go figure.
M Suresh Kumar: TNB is fleecing the rakyat. Businesses were paying 28 cents/unit, the rates went up to 39 cents, then 40 and now it is 43 cents/unit.
To top that, we also have to pay "subsidi bahan api". What is this? The government doesn't care, we are left with monopolies fleecing us in utilities, in the price of rice and sugar and in so many areas.
Those in power are actually behind all these ‘atrocities' for their own selfish gains. Well, your time is up, enough is enough.
Anonymous #33877536: What was wrong with the old meter? Somebody wants to make money and we consumers are suffering. Please remove the new meters and put the old ones back.
Anonymous_40c3: TNB should conduct some tests by using existing households old meters and that of the new meters with some control environment in place to ensure the results are accurate.
What's the point of suspending without a proper investigation? Many of us have experienced a hike in our bills after the meter change.
Fair&Just: You reap what you sow. There are so many accusations of rip-off of the rakyat's money and on the balance of probability, the amount of rip-off can come to billions of ringgit, plus the nation's debt of RM700-800 billion.
The rakyat are heavily burdened with expenses and if there is no change, we may have to even pay for the air we breath in the near future.
Odin: I remember very well how the MSM (mainstream media) sang their praises of Abdullah Ahmad Badawi when news came out that he would be taking over from you-know-who.
He was said to be an excellent candidate because he was known as ‘Mr Clean'. Obviously, he was anything but.
Apapunboleh: Over the years, with five adults in our household, we pay an average of RM130-150 monthly for our electricity bills.
Since our meter was changed, our monthly bill has increased to RM240-290 with four adults as one has moved out. How accurate is this digital meter?
Those who received BR1M (Bantuan Rakyat 1Malaysia) - this is how BN rob back from your pocket. - Malaysiakini
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