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Thursday, April 30, 2015

"Hukum Agama Ketinggalan Zaman Perlu Di Tukar" - Sheikh Abdullah bin Bayyah

 Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah, Grand Sheikh of Al Azhar University, Cairo



Outdated religious laws must be changed, UAE forum hears

ABU DHABI : Calls for renewal of religion, reassessment of outdated religious laws and orders, and putting an end to excommunication, were made by leading Muslim scholars at the second forum for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies.

Reviving Fiqh, Islamic science, is no longer an option, but rather a “life buoy” to stop indiscriminate applications of past-time fatwas or excommunication by extremist groups, said the grand imam of Al Azhar.

“Renewal is fundamental in the Islamic religion, which is based on constantly linking between religious texts, the purpose of these texts and the current living reality,” said Sheikh Abdullah bin Bayyah, president of the forum.

“There are calls to renew religion and religious speech and a religious revolution..

He called for reviewing the fundamentals of Islamic science, as many rulings are no longer applicable in modern society.

“So people take the revelation and think it is universally applicable in every time and place,” added Sheikh Hamza Youssef, a renowned Muslim personality and president of Zaytuna College.

“For example, Omar bin Al Khattab suspended [the Sharia penalty] for theft during drought.”

Another example is the apostasy law, ..which existed in Christianity
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in the current age applying apostasy law will cause more people to leave religion than to join it so it has an opposite effect.

As for other Sharia penalties, scholars need to sit and think about them: “It all needs to be reassessed,” he added.

Grand Sheikh Ahmed Al Tayyeb, of Al Azhar University, said Fiqh principles should be revised 

majority of scholars agreed that fatwas change with the change of time, place, circumstance and conditions, such principles do not apply any longer.

My comments : Well  that is his view.  As I have said before I dont think there is such a thing as 'Islamic scholarship'. There is only sectarian learning. These people exist within their own sects.  Other sects may not agree. Tell them to bring some proof and they go poof. If you dont agree with their sect you can get killed or punished. That is how they preserve their 'scholarship'.

There is a big difference between fiction and reality. For example, in the Islamic context, how can something be construed as part of revelation when it is not written in the Quran.  

Or how can one have different interpretations of something that is NOT found in the Quran?

There is no punishment for apostasy mentioned in the Quran. So how did these learned scholars come to argue about the punishment for apostasy as though it was written in the Quran? If it is not in the Quran it is not part of the revelation.

And true enough, as the Sheikh has said, the punishment for apostasy is found in the christian Bible.   The Sheikh should have elaborated on this further. 

Here are a list of things that are NOT found in the Quran but they are found in the Bible:

1. punishment of death for apostasy
2. stoning the adulterer to death
3. hijab for women
4. circumcision for males
5. the ban against statues, carvings etc
6. collecting religious tithes

and many more.  Splitting hairs and splitting heads over things that are not found in the Quran but are found in the Bible.  What a waste of life.

2 comments:

  1. "Hukum Agama Ketinggalan Zaman Perlu Di Tukar" - Sheikh Abdullah bin Bayyah

    Just to share & highlight this...

    The 3 "different status Sheikhs" are all stating the same theme...

    "Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar"

    Al Azhar Grand Sheikh named world’s most influential Muslim.

    February 24, 2015 - "...The leading cleric in Egypt’s Al-Azhar University has called for a reform in Islamic teaching in order to combat growing regional Islamic extremism.

    Sheikh Ahmed al-Tayeb, the Grand Imam of Al-Azhar made the remarks on the first day of a three day counter-terrorism conference in the Muslim holy city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia.

    Al-Azhar is the most prestigious seat of learning in the Sunni Islamic world and its edicts are very highly respected.

    Sheikh al-Tayeb connected extremism to “bad interpretations of the Koran and the sunna.”

    He said that “There has been a historical accumulation of excessive trends” arguing that “the only hope for the Muslim nation to recover unity is to tackle in our schools and universities this tendency to accuse Muslims of being unbelievers.”

    He was referring to the practice of ‘takfir’ labelling other Muslims as heretics or unbelievers. The practice is used by jihadist groups such as the Islamic State for killing anyone who disagrees with their hardline interpretation of Islam, since the penalty for apostasy under sharia law is death..."

    http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/grand-imam-al-azhar-calls-islamic-teaching-reform

    "Sheikh Abdullah Bin Bayyah (Sheikh Abdallah bin Mahfudh ibn Bayyah), "president of the forum..."

    http://www.thenational.ae/uae/outdated-religious-laws-must-be-changed-uae-forum-hears

    "...Abdallah bin Mahfudh ibn Bayyah (born 1935[1]) was born in Mauritania.

    He teaches at King Abdul Aziz University in Saudi Arabia.[3]

    He is a specialist in all four traditional Sunni schools, with an emphasis on the Maliki Madh'hab.

    Currently he is the "President of the Forum" for Promoting Peace in Muslim Societies..."

    This page was last modified on 2 April 2015, at 17:20.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdallah_Bin_Bayyah

    "“Terrorists and Their Quranic Delusions,” by Shawki Allam, Wall Street Journal, April 9, 2015:

    Shawki Ibrahim Abdel-Karim Allam is the 19th and current Grand Mufti of Egypt through Dar al-Ifta al-Misriyyah succeeding Ali Gomaa.

    Here is the Grand Mufti of Egypt with yet another disappointingly deceptive piece about how jihad terrorists are misunderstanding Islam — a point that everyone seems to take for granted as axiomatic except the jihad terrorists. And this piece won’t inspire any of them to lay down their arms and concentrate on the jihad of hitting the gym regularly.

    This page was last modified on 21 April 2015, at 16:38.
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/egypts-mufti-jihad-terrorists-are-misunderstanders-of-islam-and-quran

    You be the judge.

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