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Monday, April 2, 2012

Christian group posed as ustaz, claims witness



A Muslim man, who claimed to haveconverted to Christianity and then reverted to Islam, said Christian group leaders had masqueraded as ustaz to approach Muslims in order to convert them.

Ramli Abdullah (not his real name) said this in a highly-anticipated video released by Gombak Setia assemblyperson Hasan Ali, who claimed this to  be evidence of organised proselytising of Muslims.

In the 42-minute recording, Ramli said that these people, some of whom were ‘orang putih’ (Caucasians), wear ketayap (skullcaps) andjubah (robes) and go to mosques in an attempt to get close to Muslims.

“That is how they slowly infiltrate. When they first approach Muslims, they do not use the Bible but the Quran... this is called the cameo method,” claimed Ramli, who worked with the organisation after being converted.

"I still remember when my wife saw this, she asked me who this ustaz was... Their method was very subtle. They used Quranic verses as a bridge for you to cross over and after you have crossed into Christianity, only then will they give you a Bible."

The video interview featuring Ramli, 47, and his wife, Zakiah Musa, 42 (not her real name), was screened to journalists at Hasan's residence in Kuala Lumpur this afternoon.
NONEHasan (right) had previously claimed that Christian groups had impersonated  Muslims to approach the community.

Journalists were not provided copies or allowed to record the screening, even though the faces of the couple were blurred and their voices distorted.

It appeared to have been recorded at Hasan's house, as the same sofa and curtains were seen in the footage.
'Baptised in a swimming pool’

In his case, Ramli said, a Christian centre had assisted him when he faced health problems and later offered him shelter in Puchong.

"In the beginning, I did not know they were a Christian organisation, but I was attracted by their kindness and the way they treated me," he said in reference to an Australian priest who was in charge of the shelter.

"He said everyone who is not Christian will go to hell and that it was very easy for me to be saved. All I had to do was to believe that Jesus was my saviour and I would go to heaven."
Ramli was later baptised. As he is a Malay, this was done in a swimming pool at an apartment in Jalan Pinang, Kuala Lumpur, instead of in a church.

"After that I was taught Christian prayers and taken to attend church masses, I also played music for their worship group," he says.

Ramli adds that he was later sent abroad, to study at a "disciple training school".

“When I first joined the organisation, my movements were quite limited. There wasn't much chance of mingling with the others, but after I returned from Singapore and worked for them, I met the other groups and with pastor Raymond Koh, who was our leader..”

A week after the meeting in Port Dickson, Ramli says, the pastor took him to meet with other Malays who had been converted to Christianity.

"It was the first time I met other Malays who are also Christians. They were whole families and children, about 20 of them, from Klang."

Ramli says the pastor subsequently offered him a permanent job with the organisation, which he took up from 2004-2007 and was given a car and accommodation in a house in Kelana Jaya, on top of "support" of between RM2,000 and RM5,000 a month.

The organisation also tasked him with translating a contextual version of the New Testament into Malay, so that it could be easily understood by Muslims.

"It (the translated Bible) was to be Muslim-friendly, so that when Muslims read it, they can accept that the Bible is from Allah," he said.

The Christian organisation, Ramli said, has three units: one to assist in emergencies and natural disasters, one targeted at children and another for HIV patients.
Though Ramli refused to name the organisation at the beginning of the interview, he suddenly mentioned the NGO Harapan Komuniti whose event was last year raided by the Selangor Islamic Affairs Authority (Jais).
When contacted, Harapan Komuniti lawyer Annou Xavier shot down claims that the organisation is converting Muslims.
"It is clearly an afterthought by Hasan and whatever is coming out from him is clearly hearsay," he said.

Throughout his experience, Ramli said, he had met between 300 and 400 Muslims who had converted to Christianity.

He attempted to convert his wife Zakiah to Christianity shortly before marrying her.

According to Hasan’s aide, Zakiah too had left Islam but was "brought back" after engaging with the Save Faith Unit founded by Hasan, who was subsequently introduced to Ramli.

Zakat assistance provided

Hasan said Ramli and Zakiah have since been provided with assistance by the Selangor Zakat Board and are now rearing chickens for their livelihood.

Ramli's revelation was one of two videos screened to journalists today. Another was a 16-minute edited version of the revelation and presented in a documentary format.

Aside from snippets from the interview, the documentary format also featured Hasan’s take on the issue of Christian proselytising and a scene of him guiding an alleged apostate to recite the Syahadah in order to re-embrace Islam.

Hasan said he has a third video, which is a 90-minute uncut version of the same interview. He is mulling submitting it to Jais or the Selangor palace for investigation.

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