
The Church of the Visitation, scene of the violent attack yesterday on two nuns.
This is from the news. You can click on the links.
- Nuns were attacked with helmets by at least two assailants
- nuns viciously attacked on grounds of Church of Visitation in Seremban
- believed to be a robbery attempt early this morning
- incident happened before the 6.30am mass
- Both nuns left bruised, bleeding and in shock
- police saying attack being investigated
- Council of Churches of Malaysia today expressed shock (Oh really?)
- "The voices of antagonism and hatred have been on the increase in the country and it would be no surprise if the attack on the nuns were not conspired by those out to cause inter-religious conflict in the country.
- "The police must investigate this case of outright religious intimidation and fear creation and bring those responsible to justice," said CCM
I hope that Pakiam serpent with the forked tongue will read this first piece of news. Two innocent and elderly nuns have been viciously attacked inside church grounds in Seremban. You want to blame the fanatics and morons? Why do you think they are called fanatics and morons in the first place? Because they are fanatics and morons, stupid. Pakiam has to also carry the blame for this attack. I hope you will toss and turn endlessly over this.
Hello church brothers, please dont pretend to be stupid now. Two ladies are lying in hospital because you decided to play with fire. All your prayers are not going to help the nuns one bit now. There are no flying unicorns ok. Their fate now depends on the skills of the doctors and the health care provided at the hospital.
Religion does not need logic, common sense or any type of brain activity. You lock horns over stupid issues that have no basis in reality. And you locked horns with people who are equally devoid of sense and logic as you. Unfortunately for you, they are less civilised than you. And much greater in number. This is what happens when you do not use good sense.
Maybe in the kingdom of the lord these things will not happen. But this is the real world. In the real world if you stick your head inside the crocodiles mouth, your head will get bitten off. So dont be stupid.
The Council of Churches now says the attack was caused : by those out to cause inter-religious conflict in the country.
If this attack was because of that 'Allah' controversy then you are NOT free from blame.
You say that in Indonesia their Bibles have 'Allah'. Please do not hide the truth. In Indonesia the sneaky Dutch missionaries were looking for a way to trick the Indonesian Muslims into becoming Christians. That is why they switched 'tuhan' with 'Allah' in the Indonesian Bible. It was a dirty colonial trick. Something that began as a sneaky trick is not going to yield any good fruit - even after 150 years.
If you think modern Indonesia is a good example of religious "tolerance" just because the 'Allah' word is found in their Bible, well here is a picture from Indonesia. This is a church that has been burnt to the ground in Indonesia. This is their "tolerance".
There are many, many more pictures like this from Indonesia. So if you want to follow Indonesia's good example, do you think this will NOT happen here too? Well think again.
When it comes to Muslim - Christian relations this country has been peaceful. Until you started messing with the useless 'Allah' issue. Reap what you sow. And now take your precautions.
It is best to let sleeping dogs lie and let lying dogs sleep. This advise is only good for those who have some sense. I dont think you have any sense.
Here is news item number 2, from Sarawak.
- Sarawak uneasy following covert religious conversion attempts of non-Muslim students by a Muslim NGO from peninsula, said the state's outspoken minister Tan Sri Dr James Masing
- students under "Anak Angkat" programme run by Peninsula NGO in Kuching
- Masing demanded Education Department investigate how NGO could conduct dubious programme in a school without the knowledge of the school's authorities.
- I want to know what NGO is that. How did they gatecrash into the school?
- programme not sanctioned by the school or the education department,” Masing said
- NGO never given permission to use school hall for “Anak Angkat” programme
- If non-Muslims could not, by law, attempt to convert Muslims to another religion, on the same token Muslims too should not attempt to convert non-Muslims to Islam. – James Masing
- parents complained programme talked Islam to Christian students.
- demanded PSC investigate allegations two teachers had aided group
- students claimed teachers coaxed them under guise of “co-curriculum”.
- How could 'air zam zam', holy water, Mother Teresa be discussed
- “aggressive attempts” by Islamic groups from peninsula to proselytise
- sowing discord among multi-racial and multi-religious society
- “no respect for other people's religious belief”.
- “creating uneasiness in Sarawak,” he added.
- if non-Muslims cannot convert Muslims by same token Muslims cannot convert non-Muslims “How can we have two rules in one nation?”
- vowed to protect Sarawak as “the last bastion of religious harmony”
- "Do not disturb us,” he warned the religious groups.
- Masing highlighted Christians attending Mara interviews asked about Islam
- students asked to name prophets of Islam, Islamic prayers, hudud law
- Mara to investigate officials who asked applicants questions on Islam.
But Masing has a good point. if non-Muslims cannot convert Muslims by same token Muslims cannot convert non-Muslims “How can we have two rules in one nation?”
I agree fully. This is natural justice. Kalau kristian tak boleh berdakwah kepada orang Islam, pasal apa pula orang Islam boleh berdakwah kepada kristian?
Isnt this what Farouk Peru has called Islamo-fascism? I can do what I want to you. But you cannot do the same to me.
I say brader kepala hotak separuh masak, rasa-rasa zaman Nabi dulu, Nabi ikut style ini ke? I can convert you but you cannot convert me - by my law.
Walaupun saya tak pernah saksikan Nabi, tapi saya rasa Nabi tak pernah buat macam style ini. Pasal apa pula kat Malaysia ni special sangat?
I have said this on this Blog before and also in other fora. When it comes to their religions and supertsitions Malaysians are still childish and stupid. They do not know how to control their emotions, especially over their various imaginary flying unicorns.
My suggestion is lets place a complete ban on all Muslim to non Muslim and non Muslim to Muslim religious conversions. For how long? Until we grow up. Maybe another 100 years?
Muslim to non Muslim and vice versa only because this is where the problem lies. If christians, buddhists, hindus, sikhs want to convert among themselves that should not be a problem for now, although I have met a group of angry Chinese buddhists who did not like their children being converted to christianity.
The easiest, best and cheapest money saving solution is to take religion completely OUT of the public sphere. No State funding for religion, no religion in tax payer funded schools, universities, gomen etc. If you want religion, you go and find it yourself. Pay your own money.
And finally all religious places that earn money (from donations, contributions, from their assets etc) must be taxed heavily. I would reccommend a 50% tax rate on all religious organisations that earn any type of income, in cash or in kind.
Religious establishments earn income without contributing anything tangible to the community. They earn buta money from making people have a false sense of "feel good". So this must be taxed heavily. I think a 75% tax rate is better.
Guys, if you are adult and you are reading this - please take it from me. It is all just imaginary pet unicorns.
If others believe in imaginary pet unicorns what do you call them? Come on..what will you call them? Heathens? Pagans?
And you are .....?


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